Sunday, May 27, 2007

Looking back at the Iraq War, and who's on record

I found this, unattributed, on the web. Given how old it is, it's astonishing how little effect all this good advice has had.


Marine Gen. Anthony Zinni, former Head of Central Command for U.S.:"It's pretty interesting that all the generals see it the same way, and all the others who have never fired a shot, and are hot to go to war, see it another…We are about to do something that will ignite a fuse in this region that we will rue the day we ever started."Hawks in the Bush administration may be making deadly miscalculations on Iraq, says Gen. Anthony Zinni, Bush's Middle East envoy. "I'm not sure which planet they live on"http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2002/10/17/zinni



James Webb, former Sec. of Navy under Ronald Reagan, Decorated Marine Veteran: "Do we really want to occupy Iraq for the next 30 years? …In Japan, American occupation forces quickly became 50,000 friends. In Iraq, they would quickly become 50,000 terrorist targets…. Nations such as China can only view the prospect of an American military consumed for the next generation by the turmoil of the Middle East as a glorious windfall." http://www.sftt.org/article09302002a.html



Norman Schwarzkopf - Four Star General:"The general who commanded U.S. forces in the 1991 Gulf War says he hasn't seen enough evidence to convince him that his old comrades Dick Cheney, Colin Powell and Paul Wolfowitz are correct in moving toward a new war now. He thinks U.N. inspections are still the proper course to follow. He's worried about the cockiness of the U.S. war plan, and even more by the potential human and financial costs of occupying Iraq….(And don't get him started on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld)" http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A52450-2003Jan...



Col. David Hackworth;:"Should the president decide to stay the war course, hopefully at least a few of our serving top-uniformed leaders - those who are now covertly leaking that war with Iraq will be an unparalleled disaster - will do what many Vietnam-era generals wish they would have done: stand tall and publicly tell the America people the truth about another bad war that could well lead to another died-in-vain black wall. Or even worse." http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_I...



Republican Dissent on IraqFull page ad in Wall Street Journal by major GOP contributors: "Mr. President, …The candidate we supported in 2000 promised a more humble nation in our dealings with the world. We gave him our votes and our campaign contributions. That candidate was you. We feel betrayed. We want our money back. We want our country back…. A Billion Bitter enemies will rise out of this war." - Wall Street Journal, January 13, 2003http://talkleft.com/new_archives/001444.html



General(ret)William Odom, former head of the National Security Agency:"Right now, the course we're on, we're achieving Bin Laden's ends…. I've never seen it so bad between the office of the secretary of defense and the military. There's a significant majority believing this is a disaster. The two parties whose interests have been advanced have been the Iranians and al-Qaeda. Bin Laden could argue with some cogency that our going into Iraq was the equivalent of the Germans in Stalingrad. They defeated themselves by pouring more in there. Tragic."http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/091704Y.shtml



An invasion of Iraq would isolate the US from the rest of the world and ... Any attack would also further destabilize a Middle East..."http://www.cato.org/dailys/08-19-02.html



In 1999, Dilip Hiro, a veteran Middle Eastern observer, wrote, "How will such a new ruler cope with inevitable bloodletting as thousands of Iraqis who have suffered under Saddam's rule, kill intelligence agents and Baath party officials? How will Iran, with a network of agents and sympathizers among Iraqi Shi'ites, respond to a pro-US general in Baghdad? How will Syria’s President Assad, surrounded by hostile Israel, unfriendly Turkey and an untested young King of Jordan, react to the emergence of a pro-US regime to the east? No prizes for the answers, which, point toward a civil war in post-Saddam Iraq, which will inevitably draw in Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Iran, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, and destabilize the whole region." http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/DH03Ak01.html



Dick Cheney in April 1991, then Defense Secretary:If you're going to go in and try to topple Saddam Hussein,you have to go to Baghdad. Once you've got Baghdad, it's not clear what you do with it. It's not clear what kind of government you would put in place of the one that's currently there now. Is it going to be a Shia regime, a Sunni regime or a Kurdish regime? Or one that tilts toward the Baathists, or one that tilts toward the Islamic fundamentalists?How much credibility is that government going to have if it's set up by the United States military when it's there? How long does the United States military have to stay to protect the people that sign on for that government, and what happens to it once we leave?http://slate.msn.com/?id=2072479



President GHW Bush, 1998;"Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."http://www.rense.com/general43/quote.htm



Brent Scowcroft, one of the Republican Party’s most respected foreign policy advisors, and national security adviser under President Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush: "Don't Attack Saddam It would undermine our antiterror efforts. "Our pre-eminent security priority--underscored repeatedly by the president--is the war on terrorism. An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken."http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id...







”We have a stronger jihadi presence in Iraq today than in March 2003,” noted Roger Cressey, the former director for Transnational Threats in Bush's National Security Council at a briefing at the libertarian Cato Institute earlier this week. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0911-01.htm





Worldwide terrorism-related deaths on the risehttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5889435%20



/US Losing the War on Terror in Iraq; The invasion of Iraq has increased, not decreased. the threat of terrorist attack http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2629.htm...



Occupation Made World Less Safe, Pro-War Institute Says http://www.globalpolicy.org/empire/terrorwar/analysis/2...



Iraq Invasion Hurt War on Terrorhttp://www.commondreams.org/views04/0719-10.htm



Musharraf: World more dangerous because of Iraq Warhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/25/03544/7945



Blix Says Iraq War May Have Worsened Terror Threathttp://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0319-02.htm



Poll: Aussies, Brits, Italians say Iraq war increased terrorismhttp://www.startribune.com/stories/1576/5027215.html



Iraq "intervention" increased threat of terrorismhttp://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/archive/scoop/stories/c7/9...



UK Government; Iraq war 'increased terror threat'http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3451239.stm



Iraq war has swollen ranks of al Qaedahttp://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,10...



US State Department Corrects Report to Show Rise in Terrorismhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5264512



/Iraq has become a terrorist spawning ground, CIA admitshttp://www.smh.com.au/news/After-Saddam/Iraq-a-terroris...



Amnesty Slams "Bankrupt" Vision of US in Damning Rights Reporthttp://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0526-02.htm



Poll: Bush 'Biggest Threat to Justice and Peace'http://www.twf.org/News/Y2002/1109-Poll.html



'SQUANDERED SYMPATHY'; Poll reveals world anger at Bush http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,13...



For the first time, statistics show world's dislike of Bush translating into dislike of Americans in general...http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1394393,00....





I think that given all the predictions of disaster, it's prudent to assume that just such a disaster was the intent.

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